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Confess Fletch Trailer Breakdown & Easter Eggs
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EPISODE 30: Official Full Trailer Breakdown ----
The FletchCast crew kicks off Season 3 with the release of the full official trailer. We discusses scene by scene the new "Confess, Fletch" footage, the stuff we've seen before, and the stuff that has CHANGED gearing up limited theatrical release and debut on Premium Video-on-Demand Sept. 16, 2022.
What changed temporarily and what is gone forever?
CONFESS FLETCH OFFICIAL TRAILER:
https://youtu.be/pb2Pu5EjC1s
(watch along with our analysis)
Listen to the FletchCast crew on Back to the Future the Podcast with Brad Gilmore
EPISODE 100: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/back-to-the-future-the-podcast/id983494015?i=1000577663774
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Broadcasting live and around the world from Cabana One, the only podcast at all bearings, your ultimate source for everything flash. Thank you, Doc. Your start time? Laker Jim and its beat reporters will stop at nothing to make sure Fletch lives forever. Forever. They don't shower much. This is Fletchcast.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzThank you, Sammy, and welcome everybody to Fletchcast. I'm your host, Laker Jim. In case you haven't read the papers, the trailer is here.
SPEAKER_02I don't read the paper. What's a spread in the game? What's a spread in the game? Didn't anybody know? Laker five fixed.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzLast week the Confessed Fletch trailer dropped. And ever since then, the boys and I have been secluded to our cabanas, cut off from the outside world, we canceled our annual UR analysis, and we have been digging deep into this trailer, searching for Easter eggs. Today we emerged to give you our reactions and let you know what we've found.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'm sure it's not for a lack of looking.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzNow joining me as always, the following co-hosts have been approved for mature audiences only Jake and Big Bob Boys. We needed this deep dive for the upcoming movie.
Jake ParrishI think we needed a refresher course because you know we saw the kind of teaser trailer, what, over a month ago, but now we have a full-fledged trailer, a lot more to talk about. And who isn't excited? I've probably watched it over 20 times, and uh each time I see it, it just keeps getting funnier and funnier, and definitely uh reminds me more and more of Fletch every time I watch it. I'll be honest, the first time I saw it, I was like, okay, I think obviously expectations are off the chart. Um, but then when as I continue to watch it, I was like, okay, yeah, I I can get behind this.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzBob, what was your first reaction when you saw it?
"Big Bob" WestWell, what a difference audio made. Yeah. First of all, you know, not having any any we originally had our illicit copy that we had that we spoke about, you know, we had to do a lot of guesswork. Uh, now that we finally can hear what's being said and get context to everything going on. Um, there's a like like Jake said, there's a lot of fletch in there uh from the fletch we know from from the previous movies we know. I think a lot of the delivery that John Hann gives us fletch, uh just just in the little bit that we've seen, really does have uh a lot of similarity to the character we're used to. But there there were some changes, I guess. Would that be the right way to say it, Laker Jim? There were some changes last minute that we heard of.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah, well, we were definitely teased in the fact that Craig Montel had let us know that the trailer was gonna drop two weeks ago. Yes. So every day we all text each other and said, today's the day. This is it. Who's checking this site? Who's checking that site? We wanted to hit it as soon as it was dropped.
Jake ParrishCome on, Google Alerts, come on.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzAt the end of the day, we were just so disappointed it wasn't that day, but we had hope for the next day. Then we eventually reached out to Greg and said, Hey, what's going on? And he said, Listen, at the 11th hour, something had to be changed on the trailer. We didn't get clearance for something in the trailer to be released. So it's coming next week. Okay. At least we knew we didn't have to keep checking until the following week. And then finally the day came when the trailer dropped. And like you guys, I was I think I was anticipating it so much I wasn't completely blown away when I first saw it. But just like Jake, upon watching it and watching it and watching it, you pick up different things. You pick up how much John Hamm is acting like Fletch in the trailer. And listen, I think from certain reviews I've heard is is not as funny as they hoped it would be, and things like that. But I think like any movie we love, the more you watch it, the funnier it gets. Right. So all the little nuances, though, I think were there from what I saw.
Jake ParrishYeah, and Jim and I actually watched it together. We did. And we were like, okay, here we go. So we I was sitting in my car and I'm like, okay, here we go. Yep. And we watched it, and we were all at the end, we were just like, Okay, you know, okay.
"Big Bob" WestAll right. Yeah, we were just like Oh, you mean when it first when it first dropped? Yeah. Yeah, when it when it first the first time I watched it, I thought to myself, oh man, like uh, you know, because like we said, the expectations are are ridiculously high for us. And I thought, oh man, that was good, but I gotta see it again.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzNow I'm sure everybody has seen the trailer already, hopefully multiple times. If you haven't, stop this podcast, go watch it, and then come back. Because we're gonna play the audio right now just to refresh people's memory of things that go on, things that are said, the dialogue that is used. So when we reference it in a little bit, it'll be fresh on your mind. Let's take a listen. Hi, Frank.
unknownWhere are you right now?
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzMoney business.
SPEAKER_02Come on, Fledge. Aren't you bored?
SPEAKER_01I need you for a story. I got that police report you wanted. I just emailed it to you. It's encrypted. Oh, what's the password? Oh, I think it's stolen.
SPEAKER_04My father's paintings were stolen. The castle was a raise of$20 million.
SPEAKER_13Well, are these things we're stealing?
SPEAKER_04You're not a detective.
SPEAKER_13I wasn't an investigator for it. It's an occupation that's been deepened by the digital aid president. Earl Maurice Fletcher, a copy in the middle of the yard.
SPEAKER_12Imagine that. I think the victim interrupted an artist. Someone mentioned your description of the scene with the victim. How about immediately take one together? You want my help? Okay. Hey guys, we're gonna call it a copy of a kill for Mafia. Not literally, it's a criminal record. But I am adorable. If you did kill that girl, do the right thing and give me an exclusive. Let's talk about the suspects.
SPEAKER_07She's trying to suggest me.
SPEAKER_13What the collection of pressures have those are reproductive. That's how I introduced my children. Why did you lie to me?
SPEAKER_04You're becoming paranoid. Maybe you should get that cut.
SPEAKER_06Oh, no idea. Wouldn't it work in burnt?
SPEAKER_12Almost.
SPEAKER_11You want me on the outside so I can solve this thing. Are you a fletcher? Yes, I am. I mean, no, I'm not. I always get that wrong.
SPEAKER_08I don't know what people hate more. Cops are reporters.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzIt's cops. So there you have it, the Confess Fletch trailer. Now, running time is 98 minutes. Ironically, the very first Fletch movie, running time 98 minutes.
Jake ParrishPerfect. Yeah.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzOne thing I noticed at the end of this trailer, which I had not noticed before, this one's rated R, which I was super excited to see. I'm excited about a rated R Fletch. That being said, usually a rated R movie gets a rated R trailer. Isn't that a red band, yeah? Redband trailer, correct. So I wonder if that's ever going to drop.
"Big Bob" WestYeah, often red band trailers are the extended trailers. They normally last longer than the original. And very common. Um, and there are some websites that that specifically will only put out red band trailers. So I'll be on the lookout for that. I I'm curious to see, like, like like, for instance, when he says the password is go after yourself, we know it's not going to be go after yourself for the movie.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzIt's funny you bring that up because back in March, a listener, Jason Bilski, actually sent us a message about something he noticed, and I didn't realize how it fit in until now. But when Greg Matola posted the image of the clapboard, the confessed flesh clapboard, it's probably the second thing he posted. It had a watermark on the bottom of it. And it backwards, it read password go fuck yourself. Completely spelled out. Yeah. And I thought that was like, oh, that's a pretty funny watermark, not realizing how it could play into the actual movie. So it's funny that you say that because yeah, if everybody goes back and looks at that, you'll see it. I wonder if the password is go fuck yourself in the movie. It's gotta be. Yeah. But they would make a separate version for well, they have to make it for television, yeah.
Jake ParrishBut why why even put that scene in? Why not just obey a good question and put something else in, you know?
"Big Bob" WestYeah, because saying saying go F yourself isn't funny. It's not as funny as go fuck yourself. Yeah, it's not gonna make you laugh. Yeah, yeah, that's a good question of why you put that in.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzI mean, uh initially, all of our thoughts were okay, maybe they didn't have clearance for the theme song, and at the last minute, they had to add new music.
Jake ParrishYeah, that's what we were hoping.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzBut I think as I watch this trailer, I realized it's probably a lot more than that. Wouldn't you guys agree?
"Big Bob" WestYes. Definitely the music I agree with. I don't know what else you'd think it would be. What do you what were you thinking?
Jake ParrishWell, I I will tell you, Matola said that I mean, we can share this. Yeah, he said that the music in a trailer is not the music that's in the movie. So that trailer music is just trailer music. That music will not be in the movie. And you know, I've actually heard a couple of criticisms about the music. Oh, you know, it's silly, or you know, where's the fletch theme? That's where I've seen a lot of the questions. Where's the fletch theme? Where's the fletch theme?
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzHe said the vibe of the trailer doesn't exactly match the vibe of the movie.
"Big Bob" WestRight, but he says it's close. Laker Jim and I talked about this, but sometimes when you purchase music for a movie, you're you're purchasing just for the movie itself. You're not you're not purchasing for the trailer because the trailer's a different animal. The trailer is going to be seen on multiple television stations. You'll see it in a lot of different places. So it's like, yeah, I said that it was okay to play the my music in your movie, but I didn't say it was okay to distribute it, you know, worldwide on your in your ad campaign. So that's probably right the difference. You know, yeah.
Jake ParrishHe says the trailer is not exactly the vibe of the movie, but it's not wildly misrepresentative. And I think that has to go back, I think it goes a lot with the R rating.
SPEAKER_14Yeah.
Jake ParrishI think that has a lot to do with it. I think there's a lot of things, and I looked why it was rated R, and it was a strong language, drug use, and I think there was like some sexual situations or something like that.
"Big Bob" WestI think you're not talking about reds, are you?
Jake ParrishTalking about communes. Um but that makes me more excited. An R-rated Fletch movie? I mean, that's gonna be fun.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah, I think people will be surprised to remember that Fletch was just a PG rating. PG-13 had just come out the year before, so in hindsight, they probably should have given it the PG 13, but uh no, it just got the PG. Did they drop any F-bombs in the original Fletch movies?
"Big Bob" WestNot that I can think of. Not that I can think of either. Do we think that John Cocktoastin was enough to make it beat Kirky?
Jake ParrishThat was probably close. The censors were probably a little nervous about that.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzIs cocktoasting one of uh George Carlin's seven dirty words?
Jake ParrishYeah, yeah. George Carlin's dirty words.
"Big Bob" WestYeah, it's one of the dirty words.
Jake ParrishYeah, and then all I could think of was ship pizza fuck cunt cocksuck a motherfucker in tits. He's the best. I think for a PG 13 rating, you can say the F-word maybe once or twice. And then if you say it more than that, I think you go into the R category. Hey, watch it!
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYou're on thin ice, Larry. Have you guys noticed, and maybe this is just me, but a lot more cursing is being let go on on television now, right?
Jake ParrishYeah, I had the same thought the other day with music, and I'm thinking, because there's so many, because I was with a friend who had some younger kids and they were listening to music, and there were some swear words in it, and the kids were a little younger, and like you know, my kid isn't, you know, she's in her mid-teens, and you know, a lot of her, I mean, there's just so much more swearing. I guess it's just more accepted because of like you know, if you watch cable television, there's so much more cussing aloud on case, and even in prime time. So I think you're right. Yeah, definitely the standards are a little looser.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah, I was watching The Impractical Jokers, which is kind of like a family funny show, and they were dry, they were saying shit and other curses, and I was like, wow, not that I'm against it.
Jake ParrishNo, you're definitely not.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzNot that there's anything wrong with that, but it it's a little jarring when you're you're so not you don't expect it.
Jake ParrishYeah, there's one Fletch says shit. I think that's the only thing in the right shit, really, which is funny. I think that's when you get when he just kind of sighs, yeah, for sure.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzAll right, you guys want to watch this scene by scene? I'm gonna break it down, okay. So the trailer starts off very much like the teaser that we had, yeah. Uh uh originally, Fletch on his boat. But I think what grabbed me the first time I watched it and kind of gave me a little bit of goosebumps was the first time he was called Fletch, and it happens right off the bat. Yeah, come on, Fletch, aren't you bored? And it's John Slattery on the phone with him, and he says, Fletch! And and I don't know why, that just touched me in a really cool way.
"Big Bob" WestLaker Jim, I I had asked you earlier, I text you with a mission to because your eyes are you have the hawk eyes, but uh the the name on the name I couldn't figure out.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzSo the name on the book, I originally thought it was Italian, but when I actually put it through a translation, and it's either Spanish or Portuguese or a combination of both, but goodbye codfish. That clears that up.
Jake ParrishWait a minute, wasn't that maybe that's a subtle reference to Fletch Lives? Oh, Jake.
SPEAKER_08113,000 from basketball listed as codfish.
Jake ParrishI love it. Remember that when they didn't weren't they talking about cod in the beginning of Fletch Lives? Scrod's making a comeback, all right? It's scrod, you're right.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzScrod, but that's only small codfish. Yeah, so it's still codfish.
Jake ParrishThere's Frank. By the way, he kind of looks like Frank a little bit with the beard and the glasses, you know.
"Big Bob" WestI disagree. I'm gonna say this. This is a uh definitely a different portrayal of Frank than the one that we've seen in the original movies. First of all, would you ever expect the Frank that we know to have his feet on a desk?
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzI agree. It's a little bit more of like a uh businessman, Frank. Okay.
Jake ParrishHe's cleaned up, more professional.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah, Frank is usually high stress, looking disheveled, in a panic, frustrated.
"Big Bob" WestHe's also drinking an expensive bottle of scotch, it looks like. So yeah, it kind of portrays an image of a more uh a different kind of Frank than we originally saw. You know, the Frank that needed new deodorant is not this Frank.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzSo Frank is Frank is reaching out to Fletch and saying, Hey Fletch, aren't you bored? I need you for a story. So he sends Fletch some information about some story that he wants him to investigate. Now, Jake, in the confess Fleck book, does does Fletch have a separate story at all that he's investigating other than the paintings?
Jake ParrishWell, you he's hit his cover is he's working on the book, on the paint the the painter book, but no, not like an actual.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzThere's no side investigation.
Jake ParrishNo, uh-uh. No. I mean he claims he's did they're in Boston to doing research on the painter for his book, but no. This is definitely something that was added for the movie, yeah.
"Big Bob" WestSo they cut away now, and you see an overview of a city, and that's definitely that's definitely Boston. That's definitely you can tell from the clock tower, you can tell from the Capitol building.
Jake ParrishThere's an aquarium, and then there's Fletch at the laptop. I believe this is probably at the apartment that he's renting in in Boston.
"Big Bob" WestIn Boston. Okay, so what do you think up the what do you think is up with that aquarium? Because we've seen that aquarium a few times.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzAnything to that? Close up of the fish, close up of that little snake that's going around.
Jake ParrishWhat's Fletch eating there on the uh pizza probably the night before? Yeah, it's probably it. Yeah, it looks like a slice of pizza.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzOh, yeah, look at that.
Jake ParrishFletch has a MacBook. Unbelievable.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzAnd Frank gives him the password that we had mentioned before, the go f yourself password. Again, I I Jake, I'm with you. Why give away this joke? It's an edited version of the joke.
Jake ParrishYeah, just keep it. And then did you guys happen to pause it when the screen comes up right there? I was trying to read who the this arrest report was. Did you guys happen to my your eyes are better than mine?
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzSo here's what it says it says Owen Tesserly.
Jake ParrishThere you go.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzA Boston, Massachusetts. I was trying to figure out what the crimes were.
Jake ParrishHey, there's no crime in that, remember? I thought we did we established that.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzRight, you're right. I'm trying to cut down myself. Since Fletch is in the Boston area, this guy's in the Boston area. Frank needs him to uh see what he can find out.
"Big Bob" WestI mean, first of all, Fletch's desktop is a complete mess if you look beyond the uh arrest.
Jake ParrishI saw that he has like tons of images saved on his like on his home screen.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzOh, I didn't notice that. Cowboy with D. I don't know what that's oh, I gotta week. I gotta go back and pause that.
Jake ParrishWhen do we got the Goodwill app on the bottom?
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzOh man, oh man, I'm just gonna I'll be here all night.
Jake ParrishSee it? Look at all those images that are saved.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah, stillness, scan, scan oh one, scan oh two.
Jake ParrishMaybe it's some of the images from the book he's doing on uh Edgar Arthur Thorpe Jr., the cowboy painter, because that's why he's supposedly in Boston. I wonder if they'll use that name. I hope they do.
"Big Bob" WestOne does say cowboy with that. It's dot dot dot d P N G.
Jake ParrishYeah, exactly.
"Big Bob" WestSo you got a hold of it that says organized, nothing's in it.
Jake ParrishHe was born in Boston, the uh the painter that he supposedly is researching for a book. He's been and this is a book that kind of follows him, that he's working on throughout the the books themselves.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay.
Jake ParrishHe finally writes it. It's mentioned in Son of Fletch that he finally wrote the book.
"Big Bob" WestI mean, I I don't love the joke of go after yourself, but I like his reaction to the pastor, but I have a feeling that that's not the same, like they they cut that together, you know. Like maybe the pastor of go after yourself and the way he reacts to it aren't aren't the same, like one doesn't follow the other. You know how sometimes they'll cut things together to make it funnier. I know what you mean. Do that with this podcast. I get that feeling. Anyways, we get the Miramax logo. Right.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzThen we see Fletch jump a fence. Now, when Fletch jumps the fence, he's wearing the Laker hat. Well, that's what I wanted to get into.
Jake ParrishThat's what I was is that what you were thinking of, Jim, when we were talk earlier.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzThis lake the Laker hat that he has been wearing in all the shots we've seen has now been covered up by a blue hat with no logo on the front.
SPEAKER_02It's like it's like it's been erased.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzErased from existence. So I wonder if that's what didn't have the clearance. Obviously, something happened. I agree, and now now he's no longer wearing the Laker hat. There are scenes, and I'll point it out when we get to it, where the Laker logo is blurred.
Jake ParrishYeah, there's a few things blurred. It's blurred, it's distorted.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah. Uh for some reason he's no longer wearing the Laker hat. And coincidentally, the logos of this movie change from purple and gold to red and blue. So I wonder if we'll ever see the Lakers in this movie.
Jake ParrishOr maybe they're just saving it for a surprise. Surprise. Okay, please spread them.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzOkay, we see the painting. I'm guessing this is the Picasso that goes missing.
Jake ParrishYeah, well, yes. I mean, like, yeah, so this could be what and then like then at their then he's he's in Rome with Andy.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzRight. Right. And Andy says that her father's uh$20 million paintings have gone missing. And I think Ham hits us with the very first real flip. Yeah, this is the first Fletch delivery we get.
SPEAKER_04If Picasso was a raised at$20 million.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzWell, it hardly seems worth stealing. Now Andy is quite shocked by Fletch's reaction to the$20 million thing. Now listen, somebody that's been dating Fletch, I I know certainly anyone that's been dating me, if I were to say something sarcastic like this, they wouldn't even react anymore. You know what I mean? They just expect it from Fletch. They would they just expect it from me. So I can't imagine she doesn't expect this type of thing from Fletch, but she's very shocked by this. And she raises her glasses and can't believe it. Yeah, she doesn't understand his sense of humor. Yeah. Now, if you pause it at the 31 second mark.
Jake ParrishHere we go.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzHere's where you see the very first blurred logo.
Jake ParrishRight there. Yep. Several times. So he's walking, it looks like he's walking in Boston somewhere. And yeah, distortive for sure.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYou can see that the logo is blur, is has a blur over it, and the hat has been changed from purple to blue.
"Big Bob" WestYeah, when he's under the car. Do you see that scene?
Jake ParrishYeah, when he's looking under the car, very the very next scene.
"Big Bob" WestThat's a new hat, right?
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah, no, this is the Laker hat.
Jake ParrishThat's definitely the Laker hat.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzOkay. Or maybe I should say was once the Laker hat.
Jake ParrishHe's looking for something in like a wheel well and underneath the car. I wonder what he's looking for.
"Big Bob" WestI mean, it can only be one of the few things. It could be keys, it could be a tracking device, or it could be a bomb, you know.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzJake, right there you see the like almost see the Laker logo on the room.
Jake ParrishRight, perfect. Yeah. I think this is going to be a surprise. I think this is this is going to there's no way they would go through all this trouble with having him a Laker hat and then saying, Oh, we don't have clearance for that. Um so I'm sure this is just gonna be a surprise.
"Big Bob" WestAgain, maybe clearance for the movie, but not for the trailer. Exactly.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzFletch then goes on to address the fact that every writer director who was going to revive this Fletch franchise was going to face this obstacle. The fact that journalistic newspaper reporters are not as important today as they were in the nineteen eighties and the nineteen seventies when the books were written. Uh so he kind of addresses that front and center with Andy and then cracks a little joke. Let's take a listen.
SPEAKER_05You're not the detective.
SPEAKER_13But I was an investigative reporter. It's an occupation that's been deepened by the digital age, like president. And I had to hear that twice to get it.
"Big Bob" WestYeah. I had to hear it more than twice. Yeah. The way he delivers the word president, I couldn't figure out what he was saying.
Jake ParrishI had to think, oh, okay, what was that? Did he say present or president? And I was like, oh yeah.
"Big Bob" WestRight.
Jake ParrishI'm glad I wasn't alone on that. So this is our version of Flynn. So right.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzSo now we cut to the scene where Flynn, I'm not Flynn, Roy Wood Jr. Uh is Monroe in the role of the Flynn type character, Monroe, right, Bob. And uh he's got Fletch's ID. And this is we've seen we saw this in the teaser trailer, uh, where John Ham is making the weird face, which also matches his ID. You know, and once again, just hearing Fletch's full name for the first time in 33 years was just incredible. Irving Maurice Fletcher. They caught me in the middle of a yawn.
"Big Bob" WestNow, now, notably, too, his driver's license number is is blurred out here.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzIs blurred out, which is very Yeah, that was strange. It was not blurred out on our teaser trailer.
Jake ParrishWas the address still there? Is the address there on the free throw?
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah, yeah. The address is there, and I looked it up. I don't think it's a real address. Address? Seven. But here's a little Easter egg. This is the first one I noticed. Fletch's birthday is February 15th. Jake, who else's birthday is February 15th?
SPEAKER_14I'm trying to think of it. Is it somebody that writes some books? It's somebody that may have written a few books.
Jake ParrishYeah, I think it's great that actually they kind of honored him with that, don't you think?
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah, they honored Gregory McDonald by giving Fletch the same birthday as Greg. And uh, I guess it makes sense because when he was born, Fletch was born.
Jake ParrishSo it was awesome.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzNice tribute, nice tribute to the making.
Jake ParrishI wonder if that was intentional.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzI it had to be.
Jake ParrishYeah, yeah. I just don't think that's a coincidence.
"Big Bob" WestThere's one additional Easter egg in this license picture, too. It's an Easter egg from the movie Super Bad. It's the little red dot. Fletch is an organ donor.
unknownOkay.
"Big Bob" WestSo I don't know if you remember in the movie Super Bad, which was directed by the same director. What gets McLovin out of trouble when he's buying liquor in a liquor store?
SPEAKER_14That's right.
SPEAKER_00You're an organ donor. I didn't want to be one, but my wife insisted.
SPEAKER_02I always give him shit for it too. I say it all the time. I say it's just like a woman, even after you're dead, they want to tear your heart out.
"Big Bob" WestThat's another thing.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzI wonder if that'll come up in the movie. I wonder if there's any significance to the year 1971.
SPEAKER_14Yeah, I was thinking of that too.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzOh, John Hamm was born in 71.
Jake ParrishSo this makes him 51.
unknownRight.
Jake ParrishAgain, a solid 25 years older than you know, really how he is in the book, you know, late 20, mid-late 20s.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzChevy was 42 in the first Fletch. Uh, four years later, he was 46. So if you're pretending this is in order with Fletch lives, then he's about five years older, you know, four or five years older.
Jake ParrishI wonder if they'll ever explain why he's in or how he got to Realm. If he just kind of took off, I think that's probably just what they say. They probably just said he took off.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzIn case anyone's wondering, Fletch is 6'1. Yeah. That would have been a nice little Easter egg if they would have just made him 6'5 on the license.
SPEAKER_02He is actually 6'5 with the Afro 6'9.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzBecause they he does get uh his height measured later in the trailer. And Fletch reveals that the that the crazy look on his face is because they caught him in the middle of the yawn.
"Big Bob" WestAnd I think that his delivery, when what what does he say after they caught me in the middle of a yawn? Imagine that. Imagine that. That's a very uh fletched delivery, too.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzImagine that. Like I was so surprised, you know. Then we see a pretty cool three-panel shot that comes into frame of the dead girl's face, Fletch investigating the scene, and like an overhead shot of her dead body, the whole body. The only thing of note here is this is the same shot that was in our teaser trailer, except the Fletch shot has been zoomed in a little so that you can't see the Laker hat where it was very visible when we watched it originally. Right. Now back to Monroe snooping around a bit.
"Big Bob" WestThere's a lot of people in the background. I I'm I'm assuming that those are probably the all the CSI officers we see in IMDB on the credits. I don't think this is like the like he came in during the party, right? I'm assuming that this is all in the same place where the body was found. This is in uh Bart Connor's apartment.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzBart Conner, good call. Yeah. Now uh, you know, Fletch couldn't be cooler in this situation. They're obviously looking at him as the number one suspect of this murder. And just like Chevy played it in the first movie, when there was any kind of danger, Fletch was not sweating it at all.
Jake ParrishInteresting what they said here, when what Fletch said was he um believes that she interrupted a art robbery.
"Big Bob" WestThe woman who's the victim, I think, interrupted the art theft.
Jake ParrishRight. But that again, that wasn't what happened in the book. It was a frame up for Fletch, but there was no art in that department that at least was talked about. That wasn't a theory of his in the book that he that this woman interrupted a robbery.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzOne thing that does coincide with the book is the very next scene. Monroe says that Fletch's fingerprints are on the murder weapon, which is a bottle of alcohol.
Jake ParrishYou're right. I think it was a whiskey bottle in the book.
"Big Bob" WestHe says also someone of your description was seen with the victim before they died. And then he shows on his phone, I guess, some sort of security footage. But again, when the book was written, there was no cell phone to show. I mean, if there were security systems, that'd be a surprise.
Jake ParrishThe connection that Flynn was trying to make is it's because she worked at the airport. And so, and then when Fletch came in on the air on that airline, there was the chance you know that he had seen her at the airport. I think that what they were trying to make a connection that way.
"Big Bob" WestOkay, that's a good call.
Jake ParrishYeah, but the date is what 7-Eleven? Is that what it's saying? July is that TCR? I wonder if that's the uh date, uh July 11th.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzOh, maybe, yeah. Now they didn't do the greatest job of blurring out the low the Laker logo. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Now they blurred it, but they did not cover it up. So I just hope. Number one, I hope that the Laker hat is in the movie. Wouldn't that be a huge disappointment? Uh, it would be. And if it if it is not, I hope they do a better job removing that in with the CGI because this is a shoddy job of a oh, it is.
Jake ParrishWell, I think I think you're right. I think that they probably didn't have permission for the trailer, like you said, Bob. And they probably wanted to get this trailer out, right? So they probably just hurried to blur it and get the trailer out.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah, and and the Laker logo would have appeared many times in this trailer. So if that was uh no bueno, then uh they probably made the right the right call, just make it a quick but again, why not why not show that?
Jake ParrishBecause the people that might have been a little bit more hesitant about it might be a little bit more convinced to to watch it because at least he has a uh a Lakers hat.
"Big Bob" WestI get the impression that they're being very hamstr hamstrung, is that the right word? In terms of uh uh budget, and you know, if they could blur it out to save some money, they're gonna do that.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzAll right, I'll drop the hat thing. But if the Laker hat's not in there, then I are pimp.
"Big Bob" WestAnyway, the next scene is one of is another great fletch line coming from John Hamm here where Monroe says to him Come back with me to police headquarters. I get it. You want my help? Okay, yeah, that was great. That delivery is awesome. That was funny.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzNow the next scene shows John Ham in the police car. Now, I don't know if he has handcuffs on. Does he does he have access to his car?
Jake ParrishNo, no, no, he doesn't, he does not because it looks like with the way his jacket is, he could be off. He just put his finger off. Oh, yeah, you're right. He did. Yeah, you're right.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzSo this part, I didn't feel like this was very fletch, except for the part that says not literally, but like this could have been a good opportunity to to ask about the Lakers score or something like that. Like, hey, hey, you guys know the score of the Lakers game? You know, anyone know how the Lakers game ended? You know, like you know, that would have been a cool thing. Like, even as Fletch is being arrested for murder, he's asking about the the score of the Lakers game. You know, like I would have loved that little, that would have been a funny part uh to put in here at this moment, but they make a joke about a macchiato type of thing, which you know, I feel like it's been done to death. Hey guys, we can call it a coffee or a chill for a macchiato, not literally, yeah.
Jake ParrishI think the Laker Laker thing would have been funny.
"Big Bob" WestI think the three of us are constantly gonna nitpick opportunities to uh to put some sort of of joke in.
Jake ParrishI mean you know it would have been a funny line when you got in the car. Can we listen to the Beatles White album? Oh, that would have been great. Yeah, oh that would have been a great line. That would have been funny.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzAll right, so now they're in the police station, and Monroe is grilling Fletch again. Fletch, not affected at all by this murder questioning.
SPEAKER_12I looked into your criminal record and you're a bit of a shady character, Mr. Fletcher, but I am adorable.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzNow, looking into Fletch's past and seeing shady stuff, what do you think Munro might have found? Anything that connected to the movie or the or a prior book, Jake? Anything you can think of?
Jake ParrishWell, I think the biggest thing that kind of held with that the fact that he had two ex-wives and he was failing to pay alimony. I think so those are two of the biggest charges that really stood out. She was sleeping with everybody. My lawyer was a bum.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzSo yeah, so Gillette obviously spilled the beans on all of that stuff uh to Monroe.
SPEAKER_13You may be right.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzUh but here again we see Grizz the reporter kind of uh seeming out of place to me.
"Big Bob" WestNow, listen, I don't want to speak for Grizz or the character, but I get the impression that at least if I were writing a character, that she would find Fletch charming and funny. Yeah. While Monroe does not find Fletch charming or funny, you know? Yeah. At least that's how I would have written a character. If not, then she's just probably just as equally as annoyed as uh Betty from The Office. I'm not hungry.
SPEAKER_02All right, forget the burger. How about just the in and out?
"Big Bob" WestIt could be one of two. It's gonna it's gonna be one of those two.
Jake ParrishSo Grizz could be Grover because Flynn had his partner Grover. So I guess this could be the female version of a Grover. Ah, there you go.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzKevin Smith was on his podcast, Fat Man Beyond, last week, and he kind of backed up your point, Bob, about Fletch's irresistibility.
SPEAKER_01I look forward to it. I think he'd be an amazing Fletch, man. He's closer. I mean, I'm not taking anything away from Chevy Chase. He was great, Fletch, but in the books, he's like this impossibly handsome guy that everybody wants to fuck. And that's John Hamm to a fucking T.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzIn fairness, everybody wanted to fuck Chevy's version too. At least in the movies.
"Big Bob" WestAll right, back to the trailer. The next scene has the social media of the victim.
Jake ParrishYeah, I yeah, I I didn't pause this. So this was definitely the girl that was killed.
"Big Bob" WestYeah. Yeah, there's a big there's a big clue here when you pause it. Yes. They show in the second uh row of pictures in the middle picture, they show a blonde-haired guy wearing a hat, and that's the guy, I'm pretty sure that's the guy that pulls a gun later in the trailer on Fletch.
Jake ParrishYes, you're exactly right. So, this is one thing that I missed when we were looking at the trailer uh a few weeks ago was that this scene actually happens in the book. That Fletch is at the apartment, and that her ex-boyfriend comes and basically he's still under the impression that Fletch is the murderer, and he pulls a gun on him, and Fletch basically, you know, pulls the gun off away from him and sits him down. So that scene that we see later on, I think, is a version of that that was in the book.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzThat's why we're investigative reporters. Yeah, very good job, guys. Then we see Frank and Fletch at the bar. Now, this is a scene that happens in the book, just not with Frank.
Jake ParrishYeah, Jack Saunders.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzJack Saunders meets up with Fletch and they sort of have this discussion about the old times and and about what's going on with Fletch. So Frank says to him, Listen, if you killed her, do the right thing, give me the story. Yeah, that's a great buddy.
"Big Bob" WestYeah, like the exclusive. That's awesome.
unknownLet's talk about the suspects.
Jake ParrishYeah, and then it says the countess, and then we see another shot of Italy, and then back to her. With this is a scene that we saw in the early trailer with her sitting in a beautiful landscaped field with the count painting in the field, and they're blowing kisses to each other.
SPEAKER_05Somehow she's involved.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzNow, the next scene we see is the is Fletch getting in bed with the Countess. We know that in the book he sleeps with her. This I'm not sure is exactly that. He lays in bed, and as he kind of hits the pillow, she pops up from the bed and says, Okay, she's trying to seduce me. Leading me to believe that they hadn't slept together up until that point.
Jake ParrishYes, I I believe this is the case that that has not occurred yet, but we do know that it does. By the way, I just got some info from Greg Matola.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzSpoiler alert or just breaking?
Jake ParrishNo, not really, but he did confirm to us that February 15th was for Gregory's birthday. Uh I think that's fantastic.
"Big Bob" WestThere you go.
Jake ParrishAnd also, uh, we can I can also say that he is not sure if there will be another trailer or not to be determined.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzRun out of time. Then we see Kyle McLaughlin, uh, who plays the art dealer Haran straight from the book, um, looking white-haired and pissed off.
"Big Bob" WestHe definitely looks like he knows he that Fletch is beneath him and he's irritated that he's having to talk to him.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzWould you agree? Definitely. And Fletch, who is a you know, an art critic in the book and uh writes on art, uh compliments him on his artwork and he says that they are replicas.
Jake ParrishYeah, I love this line. I think it's a Chevy line, too, or at least a fl very Fletch line. What the collection of uh personists you have here, those are reproductions.
"Big Bob" WestThat's how we introduce my children. But it's funny now. Does Fletch have children in this in this part of his life?
Jake ParrishNo, I think at this point he didn't have children.
"Big Bob" WestDoes Haran know who Fletch is at this point of the story? Or is this like him showing up doing a no?
Jake ParrishHe just thinks he doesn't know what his true intentions are. He initially meets Haran because he tells Haran that he's interested in a painting. In fact, but the painting in question is one of the ones that belong to the count.
"Big Bob" WestSo, in theory, in this scene, there's potential that he might give uh an alias. It's possible, yeah.
Jake ParrishLet me check.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzI know that I believe that he called himself Peter Fletcher to Andan is actually in the book quite confused because he he kind of says to Fletch, this could all be been done over the phone. You didn't really need to come see me in person.
"Big Bob" WestUh-huh. Right. Well, if there was ever an opportunity in this movie to have an alias seeing this is it.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzHopefully, that line goes right over the art dealer's head. Hopefully, yeah, hopefully heran doesn't even react to it because then that's what makes it Fletch. You know, that's what makes it a Fletch smarter than you comment. Absolutely.
"Big Bob" WestSo now we see the heiress. What's her name in the movie? Her name's Andy in the movie, and she's beautiful. She's preparing some sort of a meal for a dinner party, as we originally said. And then somebody says, Did you lie to me? But that's that that's actually in the background. That's where we see Fletch get knocked out by someone, right?
Jake ParrishYeah, and I think this must occur at the same time that the gun is pulled on him as well. I think both of those interactions happen in the same scene.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzAnd now, Jake, is that the countess at the dinner party? Do you see her? Right as Fletch gets punched behind behind Andy?
Jake ParrishYes, that's definitely her. This didn't occur in the book.
"Big Bob" WestIs that the is that the fish tank? That's what I was wondering too. So this is this scene, isn't where? This scene is in Italy or Boston?
Jake ParrishYeah, this is Bart Connor's apartment. This has to be Bart Connor's apartment because the victim's boyfriend shows up at the same apartment. And I think this is in the same scene just a little bit later.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzRight. The boyfriend obviously wouldn't be in Italy.
Jake ParrishRight. So this is in Boston.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzOkay. Wow, what a spread. We mentioned that in the past, but now we give have we have a high-def version of the spread.
Jake ParrishOh yeah, it's so much clearer now. And that's a good call on the fish tank in the back, too.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzNow, right after that, Andy says to Fletch with everything going on, you should have a gun.
SPEAKER_04Maybe you should get that gun.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzFletch looking at the gun, like, oh, do I really need this? Sneaking around in the boat, he then slips, trips, and the gun falls right in the water, which is a pretty funny scene. I I laughed at it a few times.
Jake ParrishYeah, I think it's funny too. And then the reaction of just him going sighing and going, You're right. That was good. Yeah.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzNow I do think Jake nailed this next scene. When we see the kitchen fire and the woman who seems to be oblivious to the fire, that I believe is the neighbor.
Jake ParrishIt is.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYes. And Jake called that on the teaser trailer that we had no audio on. He nailed that one. Yeah.
Jake ParrishYeah, that's the neighbor that's a bit of a drunk that lives across the hallway from Bark Connor's apartment. So she's on fire.
SPEAKER_07Get rid of that girl.
SPEAKER_11Oh no, I didn't do what is this?
SPEAKER_06Wouldn't Byron Burn see?
Jake ParrishAlmost. Yeah, that was pretty funny. Yeah, yeah. They were a couple of journalists, I believe, investigative journalists.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzAnd the burn scene relating to another fire joke.
"Big Bob" WestSo then we see multiple suspects.
Jake ParrishWe see the suspects are the Countess, Haran, Andy, and the neighbor. How is the neighbor a suspect? Yeah, I don't know.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzFour suspects, but only one Fletch. All right. So now we see the uh mugshot of Fletch smiling ear to ear.
"Big Bob" WestAnd there we see he's probably about 6'1, maybe 6'2. Depending on the angle of the photo, and depending on the afro, too. His hair definitely is giving him an extra range. I can tell you could definitely see that.
Jake ParrishI like I like uh Monroe's line here. This what do you say? This stupid idiot or something like that.
SPEAKER_08This stupid idiot moron has something to do with this.
Jake ParrishOh, it was funny.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzUh upon first couple watchings, I was like, oh, I don't want him to be thought of as like a bumbling idiot who can solve the crime. Yeah, but the more I watch it, I I lost that feeling.
"Big Bob" WestYeah. I put his badges on the baby's uh baby muring.
Jake ParrishSo this is kind of if you guys remember in the book, Flynn has a ton of kids.
"Big Bob" WestYeah, I don't know, but yeah.
Jake ParrishAnd Fletch goes Fletch goes to his house and like he has a ton of kids, and it's kind of funny that Monroe has a has a kid here in his office.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzAnd we find out what Monroe's first name is by the leadership award on the wall. Yes, Detective Morris Monroe. All right, Morris or Pierre. Exactly. Ah, that was great. In the next scene, we see Fletch pop up from the boat. We see a two dark shadowed men.
Jake ParrishLooks like Fletch gets kicked there in the dark, there, don't you think? That's him getting beat up. It looks like a pretty dark figure.
"Big Bob" WestYou guys can't see who that is by the profile.
Jake ParrishOh, now I can.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah, Haran. Then maybe it's maybe it's not Fletch fighting him then. Yeah, or maybe this is the thief who's robbing Haran.
Jake ParrishYeah, who's beating up Haran?
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzAll right. So we see the Vespa shot that we saw. We only see a little clip of it. We had a longer shot in the other version of the trailer.
Jake ParrishIt looks like he's wearing the same suit that he was wearing when he was having lunch with Andy. So I would imagine he's probably driving to meet Andy at the restaurant. Okay.
"Big Bob" WestThat's a good call.
Jake ParrishAnd then he's walking either in the out art gallery or something again, or the hotel or something. And then, yeah, there's the boyfriend of the murder victim. That's definitely him.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzOkay. And Bob, you brought up a good point in the other episode that he definitely looks like he doesn't belong at this party. And this would make sense that he just showed up at this party because he wanted to confront Fletch.
Jake ParrishYeah, in the book, he lives in like DC, I think, and he just like goes comes straight to Boston to like, you know, kill Fletch.
"Big Bob" WestHe definitely thinks that you killed my girlfriend, and now I'm gonna kill you, that kind of situation because Fletch is the number one suspect. In the very next scene, though, where they show everybody out at the party with their hands up, you could definitely tell that that's without a doubt the countess in that low-cut dress.
Jake ParrishIs this frame reversed? Yes, because wasn't the countess sit on standing on the right side?
"Big Bob" WestWithout a doubt, it's reverse. Good call. And the gun is in the forefront, you could see a little bit.
unknownYeah.
"Big Bob" WestSo yeah, it's definitely reversed. And and then that's the guy that punches Fletch standing behind Andy. Yeah, the tall guy that's sitting there in the back. And I don't know who that is. Definitely the guy that punches Fletch, whoever that is. Yes, Fletch. Are you Fletcher? Yes, I am.
Jake ParrishOh I mean, no, I'm not.
SPEAKER_11I always get that wrong.
Jake ParrishAnd obviously, it probably a call back to the tall guy asking him if he was Fletcher, and he probably got punched somehow this is the second time. I bet you that's how it is.
"Big Bob" WestYou're right. That is a good call. And then we finally get the uh the movie title.
Jake ParrishAnd the logo looks like they kind of pulled it from the poster, that vintage kind of book cover.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzGot a little bit of a distressed look to it. White and blue. Yeah. Different than the logo we saw in the teaser trailer where there was animation. We saw the word fletch and confess zoomed out of the fletch. In this one, you just see it full screen, slight zoom. Zoom coming towards it. And this is a very funny joke to end the trailer where he says, you know, I'm not sure people hate more.
SPEAKER_08I don't know what people hate more. Cops are reporters. It's cops.
Jake ParrishThis has to be the end of the movie. This has to be the ending, I bet, of the movie. Because he's kind of beat up. I bet you that's it. Yeah, absolutely. And then rated R. So see it in theaters by it on digital September 16th. Rated R, language, some sexual content, and drug use.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzThere you go. So there is some sexual content.
"Big Bob" WestYeah. So we have been waiting so long for this, and we finally got it.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah, I think reviews are mixed. I think there's more positive reviews out there, as far as what I've seen, than negatives. You're always going to get the people that will not give it a chance because it's not Chevy Chase. And we fully understand that. We love Chevy Chase. We love Chevy's Fletch. We are in full agreement that stands at the pinnacle of Fletch. But we ask that you be respectful to anybody that is excited about this movie, anyone that is open to uh the idea of John Hammond's Fletch, anyone excited who has been more of a book fan than a Chevy Chase fan. And I think for the most part, our fans on our social media have been respectful. Keep in mind that things were changed at the last minute. So to judge this movie solely on this trailer or solely on the fact that you what you think John Ham is going to do in the role is really not fair. Give it a chance. That's all I ask is give it a chance. If you hate it, you hate it. At least you give it a chance.
Jake ParrishWhen I saw the trailer posted and I saw a lot of shares, there were a lot of people that were sharing it. And I think overwhelmingly those who had shared it were excited about it, were excited about Ham. It seemed like people were either excited about three things. One, that it was just a new Fletch movie, two, that it was Ham. Three, that it was following another book, which some say is the best book, and it definitely is up there. I think we talked previously about source material and how great the first fletch was, and that was based on a book. And this book is really good too. So I think it has a lot going for it. Just the fact, just the book itself is really well done.
"Big Bob" WestIt's exciting. And if this turns out well, this could lead to so much war. And a lot of people in the comments uh that I've seen have said, Oh, how come they didn't get Ryan Reynolds? Yeah. And those people that those people that keep asking that question, he doesn't want to do it. He was yeah, he turned it down. He was approached and he turned it down. He said he he he out of respect for Chevy and the role, he didn't want to do it. And you know, if he turned it down, that's on him. That's not that, you know, yeah, he would have been great.
Jake ParrishI'm curious if people, you know, like when there was a new bond and people like, oh, you know, uh Sean Connery's my my James Bond. But it seems like eventually all these people saw the movie, and I think I think for probably a lot of those people they were swayed when Roger Moore became Bond, or you know, that short time that Timothy Dalton was, Brosnan and Daniel Craig. Um and and again, those versions are different. If you look at Daniel Craig's James Bond compared to like a freaking early 80s Roger Moore James Bond, they're totally different. They're almost to the point like Moonraker. I mean, it's almost campy compared to like a very serious, like no time to die. The tone has changed, but the essence of the character is still there and he's still embraced. So why can't we do this for Fletch? Right. Why does it have to be this one version of it? Why can't it be a new version of it? And still people can be excited.
"Big Bob" WestI think it can be, and I think that you know, having an open mind about it is is the key. And yeah, if if you're gonna like Laker Jim said, if you're gonna just ahead of time say, No, he's not my Fletch, okay. That's that's okay if you feel that way. But you know, the rest of us are gonna probably enjoy this and uh hopefully enjoy a lot more.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYeah. And I think it's the generation that you grow up with, it it's who's in the role when you are exclusive to the movie. Um, yeah, same thing with Star Wars, and I think that goes with anything with Batman with J Bond. You know, Michael Keaton is my Batman because when I was younger, that's when the 89 Batman came out, and it was everywhere.
Jake ParrishBut it doesn't mean I can't enjoy because I do the other Batmans that have come, you know, after him because you like that character, and you you know, and and I think you have people have the right to make a different interpretation of it, and most of the time it is embraced, or just respected is just another interpretation of it.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzRight, right, and I and you just brought up a great point. It's like uh you either love Fletch because you're a Chevy Chase fan, yes, or you're a Fletch fan. If you just like it because Chevy is amazing in it, and arguably it's his greatest role and his finest performance, uh then you might not like this film. You know, because it's not Chevy Chase, and that that's what makes you like the other movie. But if you actually love the character that he plays and you respect everything that Chevy brought to the character and added to the character, then you should be excited about what John Hamm could and Greg Matola could bring to the character as well. Because in the 80s, book fans had to be open to Chevy's interpretation as well.
Jake ParrishOf course. I mean, it's been 20 years. I mean, we're just a couple of weeks away. I mean, it's been over 20. Yeah, it's been right around 20 years.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzToday, today we are 19 days away from the movie, and then when you guys hear this, it'll be even less, probably two weeks away. Yeah. That's exciting. It's coming quick now.
Jake ParrishI mean, you can go ahead and pre-order it if you're not gonna see it in the theater.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzAnd a Fletch fan, actually, William Bevel, um, messaged us and said that they're actually selling the novel Confess Fletch with the poster art from the movie Confess Fletch. So if you go on Amazon, you can see that it's available on Kindle now, and I believe it's available for paper on paperback soon.
Jake ParrishUh, but there are no pre-order, but it doesn't give a date of release yet. But I've already ordered it because there's no way I'm I'm letting that get away from me.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzYou know, and and who knows what young reader who loves mystery novels is going to approach a bookshelf, see John Hamm, say, This is a book, this movie is a book, and then the little Jake and the little John Hams that are out there right now will rediscover Fletch in this way, the same way you guys did with the Chevy cover on the original novel.
Jake ParrishYou're right, you're right. I just can't believe that we've waited all this time. It almost just seems surreal. It almost just doesn't seem like it's it's really happening because it's just so many false starts and just so many disappointments that we're finally only a couple of weeks away. And I have to curb my expectations just because uh I learned my lesson after the last Indiana Jones thing so long after this. Yeah, I think I went into Crystal Jones. I learned my lesson. And I will tell you that I do like Crystal Skull now much more than when I first saw it. But I'm just gonna go in with the open mind and just say, hey, I love this book, it's it's gonna be awesome. And if they have some, you know, winks and nods to the original movies, that's good. Hey, there's the Lakers set. Oh wow, there's the theme. That's awesome. I think that would only enhance it. There's the music. Yeah, that would only enhance it.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzGuys and girls, I want you to all stop what you're doing and go watch the trailer one more time. Do me a favor. And then when you're done with that, open up your podcast app and search for Back to the Future the podcast. That's right. Yeah. The Fletchcast Boys, Jake Bob, and myself were guests on episode 100, the 100th episode. We spoke to Brad Gilmore about all things Fletch, all things back to the future, and we covered everything else in 1985. It was an absolute blast.
Jake ParrishYeah, it was a lot of fun.
"Laker Jim" James KanowitzIf you love the movie, back to the future, the podcast is for you. Alright, boys, that about sums it up for episode one of season three. For Jake and Bob, I'm Laker Jim. We'll see you at the movie September 16th. If we get this old one Fuck up to 88, Gillette's gonna see some serious shit. See you, boys. Later, guys.
Jake ParrishLater, boys. Bye.
SPEAKER_08Bye.
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